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Post  Testimony of Greatness on Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:46 am

I have a question about verses 6-9. I don't understand why he said that parable. confused I can't relate it to what he was talking about in the previous verses. Can you explain it's meaning and why he said it. Thanks! Very Happy
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Post  Chinuaearl on Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:55 pm

The passage is directly connected to the passage before. However, this time, Jesus focuses on the ones who truly are not doing what is right. In the passage before, he said that bad things don't happen because you are sinful and evil, but in fact happen to good people as well.
In this passage he is basically talking about God to people. God is the owner of the vineyard, the and Jesus is the caretaker. Remember in chapter 3 when John talked about every tree that does not bear fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire?

He there was talking about people that do not produce the fruit of the Spirit, and that it what Jesus is using the fig tree to symbolize. Basically he is saying that even though, if those people continue in sin and do not ever bear fruit they will eventually be cut down, Jesus is the mediator that asks for them to get a second chance. That is why the evil people do not die immediately.

Take for example Paul. He started as a firm follower of Judaism, as he talked about in Galatians. However, though he was killing many Christians, God gave him a second chance, and allowed Jesus to do some more prompting for him to turn his life around. He eventually did, and he produced a lot of fruit for the kingdom, and even is influential for God today. Thus, God gives people more time, though they don't start out good.


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Post  Obasi42 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:52 pm

Jeez!!! That's the longest post I've ever seen!!!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad please post in small short spurts... or else I won't be able to read the whole thing!!! @ @

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Post  Chinuaearl on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:05 am

The passage is directly connected to the passage before. However, this time, Jesus focuses on the ones who truly are not doing what is right. In the passage before, he said that bad things don't happen because you are sinful and evil, but in fact happen to good people as well.
In this passage he is basically talking about God to people. God is the owner of the vineyard, the and Jesus is the caretaker. Remember in chapter 3 when John talked about every tree that does not bear fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire?
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Post  Chinuaearl on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:06 am

He there was talking about people that do not produce the fruit of the Spirit, and that it what Jesus is using the fig tree to symbolize. Basically he is saying that even though, if those people continue in sin and do not ever bear fruit they will eventually be cut down, Jesus is the mediator that asks for them to get a second chance. That is why the evil people do not die immediately.
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Post  Chinuaearl on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:06 am

Take for example Paul. He started as a firm follower of Judaism, as he talked about in Galatians. However, though he was killing many Christians, God gave him a second chance, and allowed Jesus to do some more prompting for him to turn his life around. He eventually did, and he produced a lot of fruit for the kingdom, and even is influential for God today. Thus, God gives people more time, though they don't start out good.

That better Obasi? Very Happy
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Post  Obasi42 on Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:37 am

Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Try breaking them up sentence by sentence, or better yet, word by word!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil affraid affraid lol!
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THANKS!

Post  Testimony of Greatness on Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:23 am

OBASI...YOU'RE CRAZY! NO DOUBT! Wink (I'm worried about you)


THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION CHINUA! Very Happy
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Post  ~QuizzingChik~ on Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:15 pm

queen queen I agree wit my lil bro! This isnt a chapter book! WE WILL GET BORED! Break it down by just saying the main point in like a sentence! Gotta b all long and intelligent sheesh!!!!! Show off! lol! lol! lol!
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Post  Haerodiel on Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:15 pm

That wasn't an overly long post. Not very long at all, in fact. Is this everyone's first forum or something? It would also explain why everyone is obsessed with colors and smilies and over-the-topness in posts.

See here: http://www.doctorwhoforum.com/showthread.php?t=197121
Those are typical discusion type posts.

And Chinua: Thanks! I was a bit confused about that, too. I had an idea, but I wasn't completely possitive.
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Post  ~QuizzingChik~ on Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:25 pm

Guess what everybody! Im at chapter 14 verse 24! My ten a day strategy is working! If i continue like this i shud be done by saturday! I have like 4 days to review! Very Happy Razz queen queen queen The queen says take that!
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Post  Testimony of Greatness on Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:18 am

I am gonna, if all goes to plan, gonna finish on Monday.
Yes, this is my first forum. But it always adds excitement to the disscussions if you add ecomotions and color. cherry Very Happy Cool
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Post  The Forerunner on Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:11 pm

Haerodiel wrote:That wasn't an overly long post. Not very long at all, in fact. Is this everyone's first forum or something? It would also explain why everyone is obsessed with colors and smilies and over-the-topness in posts.

See here: http://www.doctorwhoforum.com/showthread.php?t=197121
Those are typical discussion type posts.

Amen. Though that link in inaccessible, since we aren't members. so I'll provide one.

A forum I read, don't try to understand the content, but admire the length.
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Post  Haerodiel on Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:17 pm

The Forerunner wrote:
Haerodiel wrote:That wasn't an overly long post. Not very long at all, in fact. Is this everyone's first forum or something? It would also explain why everyone is obsessed with colors and smilies and over-the-topness in posts.

See here: http://www.doctorwhoforum.com/showthread.php?t=197121
Those are typical discussion type posts.

Amen. Though that link in inaccessible, since we aren't members. so I'll provide one.

A forum I read, don't try to understand the content, but admire the length.
Really? The origional forum (when it was Outpost Gallifrey) was accessible to everyone.

And that is a long post. Longer than even most I've seen. Average post is about 2/3 the size of Chinuas, but posts his length or longer are still plenty common.

You just have to care about what you're reading!
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Post  Afro Man on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:35 pm

I must say Just as Christina and Jessica are addicted to smily faces, Rachel and Jennifer are addicted to Doctor Who.
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Post  ~QuizzingChik~ on Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:03 pm

Whats that have to do with anything?
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post  Testimony of Greatness on Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:07 pm

SPEAK IT SISTA!!!!

This is for you.... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy HA!
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Post  Afro Man on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:26 pm

Ohh nothing (as she replies with smiley faces)
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Post  Obasi42 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:25 am

Afro Man wrote:I must say Just as Christina and Jessica are addicted to smily faces, Rachel and Jennifer are addicted to Doctor Who.
Hey!! You forgot about me!!! I'm addicted to Doctor Who, and singing, and Doctor Who, and hmm, scratch I guess singing.
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Post  Afro Man on Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:33 am

To be addicted to singing don't you have to be able to sing?
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Post  Testimony of Greatness on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:23 pm

WOW RJ! Where are your manners, mister? I'll hit him for you Obasi.
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Post  Afro Man on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:04 pm

You can't sing either but I understand. You unable-to-sing-singers have to stick up for each other.
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Post  Testimony of Greatness on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:31 pm

*GASP* WELL!!! I could sing betta than you ANYTIME! You just to 'fraid to admit that I'm betta than you. Go 'head...FESS UP!
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Post  The Forerunner on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:32 pm

Hello, My name is Perry and I'm addicted to Soul Eater and Bleach.
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Post  ~QuizzingChik~ on Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:36 pm

Rj please we sing better than u. u sound like someones grating metal when u sing! We can top that cant we guys! queen
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